50 cal patched round ball loads for 44

Loaded with 35 to 40 grains it rivals the modern 9mm and. Offered as dry, oiled, wonderlubed, or premium lubed on select sizes. Jan 06, 2018 please note that what patch thickness you use will also play a part in what ball size to use. A round ball is unique among projectiles in that its ballistic characteristics are solely dependant upon its diameter unless its made of something other than lead. For deer, the round ball is imho, a terrible choice. Precision shooting patches for round ball track of the wolf. You see a patched round ball with the right size ball and patch thickness will work in a 1 in 48 twist if you get just the right speed. Single ball loads single round balls can be loaded in almost any caliber without much. Also, traditional muzzleloader only shooting orgnizations generally require the use of patched round ball only during official muzzleloading target competition. How many grains of gunpowder should i load in my tc 50 cal. I was using a patched round ball and 80 grains of ffg black powder. Constant thickness, weave, diameter, weight and thread count help eliminate these variables from your shooting.

One rifle that i owned that got away, with regret, was a cva 50 cal express double barrle. I generally save the patched balls for new shooters not hunting loads. I was invited to attend a competition type shoot this springsummer that is round ball only, i have 3 different stock 1. My jackrabbit load is now 30 grains of alliant mz over a thinpatched round ball seems good out to 5060 yards. The buffalo in this photo was taken with the hottest load in the data here for the. Mar 31, 2008 at the lunenburg gun show i picked up an old traditions 50 cal shenandoah flintlock for pretty much dirt cheap money. Larger caliber rifles from 50 caliber on up will probably do better with 2f black powder. As for accuracy, a man carrying a smoothbore loaded with a tightly patched round ball was virtually equal to a man with a rifle at distances of up to 50 yards. My first muzzleloader deer came in ny back when only a patched round ball was legal. Several side hammer round ball guns are available in. But i have a long way to go with many things to try.

In one of the scenes his neice was shooting a muzzle loader with only 1 50 grain pelletthey said it was effective out to something like 100 yards or something just underi was wondering if anyone here has shot this loadmy daughter wants to get into hunting this year and i was thinking of letting her use my muzzle loader. Hornady muzzleloading bullets round ball midwayusa. Loaded with a light 28 grain load and a round ball, it rivals a modern. Round ball accuracy at 50 yards in a modern inline. I shoot patched round ball with 3fg goex in my 50 caliber rifles. Felt wads for muzzle loading and black powder cartridges oxyoke wonder wads for muzzleloading shotguns. Precision shooting patches for round ball precision shooting patches. A gun smith should be able to fit a 12 bore heavier barrel for you. Precision swaged to eliminate air pockets and deliver optimal accuracy. With 6070 grains of powder it took an evilly tight patch and ball combo that was heck to load to get reasonable accuracy. Major ferguson of the british army was killed at kings mountain by a 40 ball.

Michigan sportsman online michigan hunting and fishing resource. Remember that a round ball slows at 100 yards to about 5060% of its muzzle velocity. If you keep to ethical range with muzzleloader and round balls 510 grains isnt going to make a difference. I have a 50 cal, cva st louis hawken, side lock, 1. Also, the 45 caliber bullets we use in our 50 cal muzzleloaders are not all. We load one of our precision long rifles with a patched round ball. Cartridge ammunition, pistol, rifle, cowboy action loads by hornady 2. Hornady muzzleloading bullets are ideal for hunting or target shooting with your muzzleloader. A buddy used the same exact bullet in his 44 mag handgun hunting loads and it performed well there also. Patch thickness, lube, ball size, powder type, powder charge, etc. They should be able to fire round balls to a certain velocity because shot loads are simliar in weight to round ball charges.

Midsouth carries everything from the muzzleloader, rifle, or pistol you want, to the black powder, sabots, lead balls, and bullets that go in it, in stock and for sale, from great brand like lyman. I worked up loads starting at 40 grains, finding the sweet spot at 55 grains of. To determine that, i shot my fusil dechasse with a variety of loads. A high density, 100% wool felt wad, lubricated with all day wonder lube, that will take the place of the over powder and cushion wad. Muzzleloader wads, rifle wads, cap and ball pistol wads. Imagine what happens when you load your gun with a salivalubricated patch and ball. Lee round ball molds have the tangential cut off which eliminates the objectionable nib at the sprue. These give a dense shot pattern and increased range, without the need for wet fiber wad.

Please note that what patch thickness you use will also play a part in what ball size to use. I have a 50 cal tc hawken coming my way with the idea that i might be able to get a muzzleloader tag next year. My 44s, 31s and 45 cal balls were consistently smaller by. Factory brass lighter loads in a 50 cal with 2f 44 cal conicals. The smooth round surface allows for better rotation and improved accuracy. First, you need to know if your rifle is best suited for a patched round ball or a conical. Stock up your favorite black powder supplies like round balls with the wide selection of items we have here at. At the lunenburg gun show i picked up an old traditions 50 cal shenandoah flintlock for pretty much dirt cheap money.

Load a sixpound rifle with a hundred grains of 2f black powder and a 180grain patched. The most common calibers used for target shooting are. Exterior ballistics, recoil calculator, wound channel calculator, stopping power calculators mutiple, round ball weight calculator, powder calculators, and more. If you want consistent accuracy, the only ball to shoot. As a defensive weapon, the fowler could be easily and quickly loaded. Serious target competitors commonly load with a ball thats just. I am not new to the tc or maxisminies, just patched round ball prb. Shot loads, and small game loads can also be loaded in black powder rifles using.

A onestop resource for your technical ballistic data needs. Get the latest information about new products, special deals, news, toprated items, promotions and more. I always try to load for accuracy and not velocity because if you dont hit it, you havent done anything, no matter how fast your bullet goes. It is no secret and most books and manufacturers recommend the same loads. Do not test any loads of modern powder in your muzzleloader unless you are certain it. Muzzleloader wads, rifle wads, cap and ball pistol wads and. You have to decide on black powder or synthetic powder and the bullet or ball you. Single ball loads single round balls can be loaded in almost any caliber without much fuss and bother with good results.

More than anything else the sabot and socalled magnum loads played a big part in the. Now, pull that round ball and add a 300grain conical and you have a load that approximates the old sharps. It starts with the 1 38 twist in my 1894 marlin 44 mag cowboy. Round balls in fast twist rifles white muzzle loading.

What started as a small dream has become a multimillion dollar international business selling ammunition, reloading supplies and accessories. This should be a mild load, i ended up with a 90 grain load for my 50 cal using round balls. Cutting a patch at muzzles end lyman top punch to suit shaver 545g mould cross wind. Originally posted by swampman700please dont shoot deer with a 110 grain round ball. Shooting for small game west virginia wildlife magazine. This ballistics calculator is a computer simulation which analyzes the behavior of a round ball in its flight from the muzzle to the target. My forty ball shooter has taken many deer with 65grs. Im trying to determine the midrange and point black distances for my. It was by far the most accurate load in that gun, and while labeled light by a lot of guys, it killed with alacrity. These can be very accurate if you take time to work up a load for your rifle. I believe 1 40 was the optimum twist in the old paper patched round ball squirrel guns.

These round balls are cold swaged from pure lead and are exceptionally uniform with no air pockets or voids. It could be loaded with shot for birding or with a round ball for deersize game. In talking with the guy he said his best load was with 65 gr of 3f using a. Loaded with 45 and 50 grains it starts to approach the power of a lightend. Aug 06, 20 1in 60 is the usual 50 caliber round ball twist but some old originals were as slow as 1 in 72. Beartooth bullets ballisticians corner round ball weight. The 1,000 pound young bull was hit with right around 1,000 footpound of energy. Jan 14, 2018 my jackrabbit load is now 30 grains of alliant mz over a thin patched round ball seems good out to 50 60 yards. My jackrabbit load is now 30 grains of alliant mz over a thin patched round ball seems good out to 50 60 yards. Early on, i never had much luck with plasticpatched round ball which my kentucky shooting friends were using, so i went exclusively to maxis since 81. Out of a quality bore, a properly loaded patched round ball can prove deadly accurate at the ranges it was truly intended for and that is 25 to 50 yards. I have taken deer with both but never studied the numbers on these. An old rule of thumb for black powder starting loads using round balls is 1 grain volume per caliber ie. Experiment with various powder loads to determine which gives the best shot group.

After that, there seems to be just not enoughspin to get good enough accuracy. Still, velocities are low enough that range will be limited. My wife and i shot some informal muzzle loader competition many years ago with 50 cal. Remember that a round ball slows at 100 yards to about 50 60% of its muzzle velocity. Round balls are effective on close range big game animals. Precision made from special tightly woven cotton, to insure uniformity. As i said above but should have mentioned my rifle is a. Shot loads and snake loads can be loaded in revolvers using wool wads.

Round ball loads i became interested in round ball loads and multiple round ball loads several years ago and experimented with them off an on for about a year in both rifles and revolvers. First, you need to know if your rifle is best suited for a patched round ball or a conical bullet. I loaded 85 grains of pyrodex and a soft round ball over a polly patch. Midsouth carries everything from the muzzleloader, rifle, or pistol you want, to the black powder, sabots, lead balls, and bullets that go in it, in stock and for sale, from great brand like lyman, cva, traditions, tc, pyrodex, blackhorn 209, and many more. Douglas barrel at 50 yards it will shoot 5 shots into a inch. The patched round ball group was two inches and the maxi ballet group was. The original gunsmiths first making patched round ball rifles. Will 1 50 grain pellet kill deer out to 50 yards in a. Felt wads for muzzle loading and black powder cartridges.

Bumping a round ball to the proper diameter is the only way to get any accuracy from them. For me, round ball loads tend to shoot higher than point of aim in a revolver and lower than point of aim from a rifle. Good evening all, just sitting here musing about a weekend of shooting a new reproduction rifle. In that case you may want to look at rifle with a false muzzle, one of my rifles has one a. This means that energy levels and thus killing power will be correspondingly low. Muzzleloader round balls lead round balls for sale. I found the ballistics to be similar to my 357mag and 44mag handguns out to that distance. Discussion in firearms started by jacob huffman, jun 7, 2010. I like the idea of traditional round ball hunting, but as i look at published muzzle velocities and consider how fast energy drops off with a sphere in flight it seems like such a choice means effective hunting ranges would be really short. I have been cutting roughly square pillow ticking patches, and got to thinking.